Hello, I tried to send you a pm but I got a message saying I was not logged in or did not have access to this page. Oh well, look like it's just not my day. Thanks anyway for the information. I have someone coming Sunday to help me with this . I can create a layout in scrapmax but I cannot use the kits shapes,etc.I have to use my embies from my documents folder. Hopefully somone will solve this problem. McAfee was no help whatsoever. Thank you and have a good evening.