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Karin
06-28-2006, 05:26 PM
Time for another poll. Who's your favorite "Beatle" and why?
I've always liked George. Even though he wrote - like - 4 Beatles songs that ever get air time, I think they are the best of the lot ("Something" and "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" are fantastic). Also, much of his later solo work had a lot of depth and soul. I've enjoyed his latest (and sadly last) album, "Brainwashed" immensely.
So - will anybody else weigh in?
Karin ;)
Corey
06-28-2006, 06:49 PM
George Martin, because he crafted those songs and for me the legacy of The Beatles is entirely in the recordings. Awesome albums.
Regardless of the official credits, Harrison almost certainly contributed to more than 4 tunes. The thing was that Harrison was a mensch and he just hated participating in the endless acrimony over credits so he didn't bother. I don't blame him. McCartney is still quibbling about that stuff to this very day. Just last year he villified Yoko Ono in the press for denying his request to change the credits on Hey Jude to read "McCartney, Lennon" instead of "Lennon, McCartney". So... :)
Jessica
06-28-2006, 07:34 PM
i'm too young to have a favorite Beatle. I know that Paul McCartney gets on my nerves for some reason, and John Lennon... I don't know... too much talked about. The other two, I don't know anything about them except that they've passed away.
Corey
06-28-2006, 08:38 PM
Ringo is alive. It was Lennon who passed. (along with Harrison)
The Beatles gave their last concert the very day I was born but there was still no escaping their influence here in Canada over the following decades. The radio/media in Edmonton was just chock full of The Beatles all through the 70's. I remember when I was taking guitar lessons there at the age of 6 the standard guitar textbook that they gave us was "The Lennon McCartney Songbook". Tom Dooley was my bane.
Even though I never save anything, not even photos, the one thing which has miraculously stuck to me somehow to this very day is that songbook. :D
Karin, check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWUHvz-RRhs
I love that video. Most important thing to note is how much more he sounds like the Beatles than either McCartney or Lennon solo. That tells me something very specific about George Harrison's music. He was clearly the backbone of their sound IMO. :)
Karin
06-28-2006, 08:44 PM
Yeah - Ringo is still alive, and he is the luckiest MAN alive.You know - he joined the band right before they made it big, he's married to a Bond girl, and yes - he'll outlive them all...
But anyway...yes, of course George H. contributed to more than 4 songs, but for some reason "When I'm 64" seems to outplay "Here Comes the Sun"...
George Martin was brilliant - good answer, Corey, and how about Mr. Spectre and his wall of sound...
I'm technically too young to know the Beatles too, but my dad got me into them. I even did a presentation in grade seven about the Beatles and set up a little stage with my Ken dolls - no joke.
Everything in the name of fun, here, folks! :D :D
Karin :)
P.S. thanks for the link, Corey. Will check it out later. Internet is as slow as molasses for some reason...
Corey
06-28-2006, 09:19 PM
Spector came along much later and was basically a nightmare. His 1970 remixes of some of their previously recorded songs including Let It Be, Long and Winding Road, and All Across The Universe only became recognized as "good work" after several years of market success, at the time he was criticized.
Spector is a dark character, always was. By contrast Martin is a mensch. Totally opposite ends of the spectrum.
Anyhow without boring you, here's the fundamental artistic difference; George Martin is a trained musician who produced radio dramas for a time. It is unquestionably his experience in producing radio dramas which is the binding force behind albums like Sgt. Peppers. Whereas Phil Spector was a pop producer, his hits are all pop tunes. Good tunes to be sure, but hardly touching on that "extra dimension" that George Martin was able to create. It's rather like the difference between Shakespeare and Steven King. :D
Many would define George Martin as "a producer's producer". He was a trained musician also:
http://www.georgemartinmusic.com/george_martin.htm
George Harrison definately was my fave Beatle,he was the *quiet* one but had a mischievous nature, I also thought back then he was the cutest :)
I loved the antics of John & Ringo ,but overall George wins out :)
I agree, Paul Mccartney drives me bonkers, he cannot sing for peanuts now, & it's embarrassing to watch him perform,think its time he decided on retiring :)
Karin
06-29-2006, 07:26 AM
Woo-hoo Kazr! Georgie is our lad!
Corey - thanks for your thoughts, NEVER boring - super interesting, actually. At the risk of being simplistic, I suppose it can be summed up this way - Long and Winding Road- yikes :eek:. Sgt. Pepper - that's when they was fab :) (Love George H.'s "Within You Without You" on that one, by the way... His song "Rising Sun" on Brainwashed is like a bookend to it.)
Karin :)
"For in the rising sun,
You can feel your life begin.
Universe at play
Inside your DNA
You're a billion years old today"
- George Harrison, "Rising Sun"
Corey
06-29-2006, 07:58 AM
Yes. The other side of the coin is that some say The Beatles gave Spector very little to work with, i.e. Long and Winding Road, so he was essentially just making the best of a mediocre situation.
Great George Harrison lyrics Karin. He's right you know. People should think about that kind of stuff more, it keeps us humble. :D
Hmmmmmmmm Karin & Corey
Sometimes I feel a billion years old LOL- but yes we do take a lot for granted don't we ?
Great lyrics.:)
Marnie
06-29-2006, 10:34 PM
Karin and Corey - our resident music trivia experts.
I don't feel I know enough to weigh in.
I did stand on stage with Paul M. I talked to him, shook his hand, and I did eat a veggie meal with his crew. Don't know that it would make him my favourite..............but.........hey this just gave me an idea for another pole-a-la-Karin.......check for it as a new thread.........:cool:
Corey
06-30-2006, 05:28 AM
Cirque du Soleil is collaborating with "The Beatles" on their new show which opened today:
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=entertainmentNews&storyID=2006-06-30T104923Z_01_B182518_RTRUKOC_0_US-LEISURE-BEATLES.xml
*eng*
04-26-2008, 02:16 AM
Bought my hubby the limited edition of The Beatles collection. Has a huge hologram on the front. I paid £200 for it, CD's has not been out here long (well not in England!) so was a long time ago.We all had our favourite at school, more crushes I think than favourite. Paul used to be my favourite for that reason, but I think John has taken that spot now. Imagine and Woman (is that the title, my minds gone blank!)are just amazing. George never really got enough credit. Ringo has forged a new career as a narratist amongst other things. They were all brilliant in their own right, quite an achievement. I don't think Paul's personal life has helped him lately, I can't stand Heather Mills. I know she portrays herself differently outside England but she only cares about herself. If only there hadn't been a Beatle split, but then we may have missed out on the individual talents. If only...life is full of them! :)
mswizard
04-26-2008, 09:23 AM
This may seem strange..But, I loved the Beatles as a whole. To me there were never singles or solos..when ever I heard Ringo or Paul or John sing..to me...it WAS the Beatles. I love John I think because he gave us Julian (Only wish he would do more with the talent he has) But then, that's my opinion;)
Smile
04-26-2008, 11:56 AM
Whow Eng: You must have been having a "Beatle" moment. I have been and always will be a Beatles fan. Not only there music but there words in most of there songs are beautiful. And "Imagine" is the best. I don't care what they have done in there personal lives but they were the best ever and each one has and had wonderful talants. I just am thankful to have been a part of it all........xoxo...with out music where would our past memories be.
nanwu
04-26-2008, 03:13 PM
I'm with Wiz, they are a whole (The Beatles) or they are nothing!!!!! My brother got me hooked on the beatles and I have some great memories of him when I listen to their music
jazzieal
04-27-2008, 01:28 AM
I remember watching the Beatles when they came to the US the first time and were on the Ed Sullivan show..my dad couldn't stand them because they had Long (duh) hair...but he let me stay up late that night to watch them..show was on a Sunday night and of course I had school the next day..I have to agree that it took all of them to make the Beatles what they were..I am probably in the minority but I never really liked John...only a few of his songs are worth listening to for me..I liked Paul the best (in the minority again) I always thought he was the best looking one and I really believe he and Linda were very much in love and dedicated to each other..and I really like most of his music..never got into all the legal stuff about them..I remember being sad when they broke up..and I do agree that most of his new music is not as good as the old..I also remember watching the movie on TV a long time ago The Linda McCartney story and it made me so sad when she died..and it upset me when Paul got married again..I never thought Heather Mills was right for him..and I didnt like her either eng..I do admire her for all she does with only one leg..George was good but he was too quiet and got pushed into the background..
mismo
04-29-2008, 12:38 PM
Here's something to make you all green with envy, I grew up on the street Ringo star was born in, Madryn Street, Liverpool 8, I used to shop for his nan, and was friends with his cousin, in fact he rode down our street in a limo, when his cousin married, he paid her a visit, as if he had gone to the church it would have been swamped, I was only a little girl then, and didn't appriciate it that much, Madryn street, is being knocked down, but they are keeping Ringo's birth place in tact.
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